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installing windows 7 on a ssd (Solid state drive)
hello all, i need help, i made a new computer,
but anyway, i bought a solid state drive, so i could install my windows 7 on it,
so i would have a faster boot up, but i have a problem,

in bios, the SSD shows up, but when im installing the windows, when it ask's, "please select the drive you wish to install on" only the 1tb hard drive shows up, the ssd is missing, so since that would not work, i installed it on the 1 tb, and when i click my computer, the SSD shows up there too, i unplugged the 1 tb hhd, and again the ssd wont show up when windows asks "what drive do you wish to install on", has anyone any ideas ? i really need to fix this,

this is the ssd =
http://www.dabs.ie/products/kingston-30gb-v-series-2-5--sata-ssd-6MT1.html


thank you in advanced

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hi,did you plug te ssd ito the same cable as the 1tb drive when you removed it

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Have you set up the BIOS to AHCI? What motherboard are you using? Disconnect all drives other than the SSD and try again.

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hi,did you plug te ssd ito the same cable as the 1tb drive when you removed it

no, i have the SSD in SATA3_0 and the 1 tb in SATA3_1,


Have you set up the BIOS to AHCI? What motherboard are you using? Disconnect all drives other than the SSD and try again.

as far as i know, yes i have tried AHCI, and i think it was no use, i will try it again though,the motherboard is a Gigabyte AM3 AMD 870 DDR3 ATX, this is the same one, http://www.dabs.ie/products/gigabyte-am3-amd-870-ddr3-atx-6ZXJ.html

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Do you have the BIOS set to "As SATA type?"
I'm at work at the moment so cannot see my settings in BIOS. I have the Gigabyte 890FXA board. The BIOS would be very similar I imagine.
Will not be home from work for another 7 hours, so if you have not solved it by then, I will post up my settings.
Have you tried installing in IDE mode?

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Do you have the BIOS set to "As SATA type?"
I'm at work at the moment so cannot see my settings in BIOS. I have the Gigabyte 890FXA board. The BIOS would be very similar I imagine.
Will not be home from work for another 7 hours, so if you have not solved it by then, I will post up my settings.
Have you tried installing in IDE mode?

Yes im sure its "as SATA type" i have just tried IDE mode and AHCI mode,still dont show up, is there any chance i could get you on some kind of messenger ? and when your home from work you could talk me through it ? and send me pics of your bios ?

you could PM me your msn, if you have msn,

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Sorry, but I do not assist through messenger services, but I am more than willing to post up my BIOS shots once I get home :)

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The first shot shows the Hrad Drive list when you have AHCI enabled. As you can see, there are no drives shown, but I can assure you that I have 4 drives attached :).

This one shows AHCI enabled with the various other settings.

Last one is showing the drive boot order.


Let me know if I can help further.

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But you can switch over to AHCI after installing in IDE mode :)

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ahh thank you for this, i know it will help, sorry about only writing back now, could not get online, if you guys wish to add anything else please do, i will try fox it as we speak and i will let you know if it works :)

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still wont work,
wont show up here, same as yours, what do show up is my dvd drive,
[IMG]http://i55.tinypic.com/sdmfzk.jpg[/IMG]

this is what i tried,
[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2q9dslx.jpg[/IMG]
same as yours i think,

[IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/5mfyte.jpg[/IMG]
and this is still what comes up, when i rescan, wont show up, when i click browse, a C drive do show up but if i click it i get an error,after the error i can select "driver" or something

i have pluged out my 1 TB for now, my SSD do show up in bios, you know at the part where u click page up and page down to move it, the drive boot order,

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still wont work,
wont show up here, same as yours, what do show up is my dvd drive,
http://i55.tinypic.com/sdmfzk.jpg

it not going to show there as its not a ide drive ,

this is what i tried,
http://i56.tinypic.com/2q9dslx.jpg
same as yours i think,

http://i56.tinypic.com/5mfyte.jpg

so with the 1TB out the windows disk still doesn't see the drive to install to it .wonder if solid state drives comes formatted and ready to go ,some platter sata drive came unformated and need to be formatted before some computer could see the drive ,.
when running you 1tb and the SSD hooked up does windows disk manger see the drive and show it as formatted ,or dose it show it at all ,if it shows it and its not formatted right click on it and format it ,and try install again

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still wont work,
wont show up here, same as yours, what do show up is my dvd drive,
http://i55.tinypic.com/sdmfzk.jpg

it not going to show there as its not a ide drive ,

this is what i tried,
http://i56.tinypic.com/2q9dslx.jpg
same as yours i think,

http://i56.tinypic.com/5mfyte.jpg

so with the 1TB out the windows disk still doesn't see the drive to install to it .wonder if solid state drives comes formatted and ready to go ,some platter sata drive came unformated and need to be formatted before some computer could see the drive ,.
when running you 1tb and the SSD hooked up does windows disk manger see the drive and show it as formatted ,or dose it show it at all ,if it shows it and its not formatted right click on it and format it ,and try install again

well im not sure, but here is the ssd in windows disk manager, you might see something,
http://i51.tinypic.com/2db2rtu.jpg

but yes i did format, and still no use

i dont know why it shows in bios, and in my computer but not when it wants me to install the windows,

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i dont know why it shows in bios, and in my computer but not when it wants me to install the windows,

nor do i ,but i just read where they suggest one ,goes to the manufactures website and check for a firm wear update before trying to install win7 the story was a little dated thought some time late 2009

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nor do i ,but i just read where they suggest one ,goes to the manufactures website and check for a firm wear update before trying to install win7 the story was a little dated thought some time late 2009

i cant seem to find one, the kingston website is a joke, they have no drivers, i dont know what to do, i dont even know what firmwear is,

http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=SNV125-S2/30GB&id=1

all i know is i got the kingston 30 GB -v "drive only"

im confused :(


*Edit, hmm whats this ? http://www.kingston.com/support/ssdnow/m_firmware.asp could this be

*edit 2* ok never mind, i guess there is no way, im reading up on a program called "True Image" and "Nortan Ghost" to just copy everything that im using on the 1 TB, not sure if that works with the OS though, will cost more money but the SDD was a waste anyway and i need to get it to work, if you have anymore ideas please let me know

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that ready boots it will use the drive as ram,[not storage or install win7 ] ,what its really meant for is using a thumb drive as ram on older computers running vista or win7 with limited space for ram.

what is the make and model # of your SSD

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that ready boots it will use the drive as ram,[not storage or install win7 ] ,what its really meant for is using a thumb drive as ram on older computers running vista or win7 with limited space for ram.

what is the make and model # of your SSD

make ? Kingston 30GB SSDNow V-Series SATA2 2.5

this seems to work too its like the model number, SNV125-S2/30GB , thats what comes up on the site,well here
http://www.ec.kingston.com/ecom/configurator_new/partsinfo.asp?root=us&LinkBack=http://www.kingston.com&ktcpartno=SNV125-S2/30GB&id=1

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Have you tried hitting F6 (at the prompt) when you are trying to install Windows? It will ask you shortly after that if you want to install the RAID/AHCI drivers.
You will find the drivers on the motherboard CD or on the relevant motherboard website.

Also, have you tried connecting the SATA cable to a different connector on the board?

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Have you tried hitting F6 (at the prompt) when you are trying to install Windows? It will ask you shortly after that if you want to install the RAID/AHCI drivers.
You will find the drivers on the motherboard CD or on the relevant motherboard website.

Also, have you tried connecting the SATA cable to a different connector on the board?

i tried a new sata port, still no use, i know its something to do with drivers, but i dont know what ones,

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Have you tried hitting F6 (at the prompt) when you are trying to install Windows? It will ask you shortly after that if you want to install the RAID/AHCI drivers.
You will find the drivers on the motherboard CD or on the relevant motherboard website.

Also, have you tried connecting the SATA cable to a different connector on the board?

soo close , found this on the mobo disc and installed all,
http://i55.tinypic.com/9uxjtg.jpg
only tried ide but i know for a fact ACHI wont work, sorry if i got them 2 wrong, look im going to give up, i have been doing this for 2 weeks now, and im just getting angrier every time,i have been on this forum none stop since i joined waiting for a new option,i just dont understand why it dont work, at the back of the pack from the box of the SSD, it says "2.5" SSD
Faster system start up
and so on and on, im pissed off now :/

thanks crunchie and caperjack anyway

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It's really strange because Windows 7 should just install the necessary drivers.
Only other thing I can suggest is to do a CMOS reset and try installing again.

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It's really strange because Windows 7 should just install the necessary drivers.
Only other thing I can suggest is to do a CMOS reset and try installing again.

strange indeed, i tried the CMOS reset no use, what else could i use a SSD for ? i play games, i wanted windows on the SSD and all my games on the 1 TB, but ah sure, dont matter now, so, what exactly could i stick on the SSD, they have bad Write speed yeah ? or will i use it for that readyboost thing ?

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hi,I took the liberty and email tech support for your drive ,this is what they say .


Hell Jack,

Yes indeed. Not all the times but in situations like these yes and it's not really drivers for Windows 7 it's for the SSD drives. Most often you have to obtain the controller drivers from the system manufacturer's website.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply to this e-mail with full email history. Thank you for using Kingston on-line technical support.

Regards,

Julio C Andrade
Kingston Technology
Technical Support
8am - 5pm Monday through Friday PST

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11/12/2010 02:02 PM
To <Tech_Support_Reply1@Kingston.com>
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Subject Re: New SR# 1-109396216 (Julio Andrade)
Reply By Julio Andrade
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ok, but are the f6 drivers needed with windows 7 ,thanks

From: Tech_Support_Reply1@Kingston.com
Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 12:53 PM
To: Jack
Subject: Re: New SR# 1-109396216 (Julio Andrade)


Hello Jack,

You may need the F6 drivers. You should see this during the install at the bottom of the screen when shortly after you put in your installation CD. If not then you will have to go to the manufacturer of your computer or motherboard for these additional drivers. Usually called pre installation drivers.

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply to this e-mail with full email history. Thank you for using Kingston on-line technical support.

Regards,

11/11/2010 03:54 PM

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Subject Re: New SR# 1-109396216 (Julio Andrade)
Reply By Julio Andrade
Category New Email

hi,its connected by itself on the #1 sata connection

From: Tech_Support_Reply1@Kingston.com
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:46 PM
To: dodger97@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: New SR# 1-109396216 (Julio Andrade)


Hello Jack,

Sorry to hear you're having this issue. May I ask how exactly you have it connected?

If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to reply to this e-mail with full email history. Thank you for using Kingston on-line technical support.

Regards,

Julio C Andrade
Kingston Technology
Technical Support
8am - 5pm Monday through Friday PST

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11/10/2010 05:12 PM
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Thank you for that caperjack,
and yeah its in the right sata port, and it has power, shows in bios, and it shows in "Computer too" for now i have some apps on it, http://i52.tinypic.com/28vftiq.jpg

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yeah ,if techsupport is right you would need the motherboards sata device drivers on a FLOPPY TO INSTALL WHEN HITTING F6 ,I ACTUALLY CANT REMEMBER IF WIN7 GIVES THE F6 OPTION WHEN INSTALLING sorry for the caps ,hit the wrong key ,and im to tired to type it all over .lol

i recently installed win7 on my old Dell workstation with a scsi drive and it never blinked an eye in regard to drivers for the 8 year old scsi device

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yeah ,if techsupport is right you would need the motherboards sata device drivers on a FLOPPY TO INSTALL WHEN HITTING F6 ,I ACTUALLY CANT REMEMBER IF WIN7 GIVES THE F6 OPTION WHEN INSTALLING sorry for the caps ,hit the wrong key ,and im to tired to type it all over .lol

i recently installed win7 on my old Dell workstation with a scsi drive and it never blinked an eye in regard to drivers for the 8 year old scsi device

is there a specific name for the driver ? i dont have a clue what it is :P im starting to just install apps on the SDD for now, but if i do find a fix i will just wipe it and install windows on it, sorry for the late reply, i did get sata-raid driver with the mobo disc, and installed it, and had no use, and i dont have a floppy disc lol, will have to use a usb

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Have you tried formatting the drive through the windows utility and then try to install 7 onto it?
Do you have a Windows XP CD? You could also try formatting it with that.

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