Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon Army sucks. Go Air Force :) (I'm retired US Air Force … Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by sneekula [QUOTE=ZZucker;551375]The Israeli Army is the best Army in the world! If they would have been allowed to do the Iraq thing, they would have been in and out in five days.[/QUOTE]The Israeli Army should be good, the US taxpayer pays for them. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ramy Mahrous … am, no vacations, ...... I hate being in army!! And the most stupid point in army they treat who has qualifications like who… Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting … scared politicians who are afraid to give orders to the army. They all think about their own career, instead of the… you don't mind destroying, surround the place with several army divisions, and use the entire area for target practice for… Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by ZZucker The Israeli Army is the best Army in the world! If they would have been allowed to do the Iraq thing, they would have been in and out in five days. Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ramy Mahrous Just one question flashed in my mind who spent Mandatory service (Military service)??? and what do you think about Army?? Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by DimaYasny … your border guards - nice guys really, but in the Israeli army, high-educated soldiers usually serve as officers, getting paid more… Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting the best army is one that's so good noone dares oppose it on the field of battle, one that by its very existence makes war unnecessary. So having weapons that don't have the name of an enemy written on them is a good thing, it makes people take pause and notice that there's room enough for their name... Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by DimaYasny … scared politicians who are afraid to give orders to the army. They all think about their own career, instead of the… Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by DimaYasny Israeli army never went into Iraq Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jasimp [QUOTE=DimaYasny;551397]Israeli army never went into Iraq[/QUOTE] AD said "Had Israel done what we did" which means it was a hypothetical situation. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by ZZucker [QUOTE=DimaYasny;551397]Israeli army never went into Iraq[/QUOTE]How would you know? They could have sent special op units. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting [QUOTE=DimaYasny;551397]Israeli army never went into Iraq[/QUOTE] The world still owes you bigtime for teaching Saddam and France a lesson by taking out their Osirak reactor :) Not that the world will ever thank you for it, but such is the world. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by DimaYasny [QUOTE=sneekula;554966]The Israeli Army should be good, the US taxpayer pays for them.[/QUOTE] … Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting conscription teaches kids discipline and respect, as well as skills that could come in handy when they go hunting for jobs (many get training as vehicle mechanics, cooks, nurses, etc. etc. as well as obedience to their superiors and not questioning everything your boss tells you to do). When they cancelled it here in the 1990s youth crime … Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by zandiago I know that a few countries are planning to implement that compulsary military service to help discourage the high gang voilence among teens...I wonder what everyone thinks of a military draft? Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon [b]compulsary military service[/b] = [b]draft[/b] :) Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by DimaYasny three years in Israel Defense Forces. Combat service, lots of action. was drafted as an 18 year old kid, came out an adult. not sorry for a second I spent in there - I was doing some REAL things, not just training. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by zandiago Thanks AD for the clarification...I thought the US draft is only in the event when needed...the mandatory military serivice is carried out even if a country isn't at war? Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon AFAIK the draft used to apply all the time but I don't recall having mandatory military service when we were not at war. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States"]we have not had mandatory s[/URL]ervice or the draft for quite a few years now (ended in 1973). Since then an all voluntary military force has … Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting Draft is NOT conscription, though the two are related. Draft is for the duration of a conflict, conscription is for a fixed duration irrespective of whether there's a conflict. The draft in the US ended with the Vietnam war, and has never been renewed (despite calls by the Dems to do so, veiled as "rumours" that "Bush wants to … Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ene Uran Well, I can't remember when the US was not in some kind of a war. Professional soldiers are so much better than draftees. Why draft someone that is not a soldier at heart? Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jasimp To throw them in front of a bullet that would kill a real soldier. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by DimaYasny [QUOTE=Ene Uran;549662]Well, I can't remember when the US was not in some kind of a war. Professional soldiers are so much better than draftees. Why draft someone that is not a soldier at heart?[/QUOTE] it doesn't take too much to turn someone into a soldier. about a year of proper training is enough Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ene Uran [QUOTE=DimaYasny;549678]it doesn't take too much to turn someone into a soldier. about a year of proper training is enough[/QUOTE]It depends whom you are shooting at. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon >>but why they need engineers, doctors and computer scientists to serve as soldiers??? Just who do you think supplies all those weapons, cloths, food, housing, tends to wounds, etc? I heard once that it takes 10 people to support 1 soldier. >>no vacations US active duty people get 30 days paid vacation a year. When I was on … Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by DimaYasny not every soldier is doing the shooting Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Lardmeister The upcoming military budget for the US is $700,000,000,000. Many of the weapons we are buying don't have an enemy yet. IMHO, we could just throw a lot of that money out of a plane over a battle area and the enemy would start fighting amongst themselves rather than against us. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon But that hasn't stopped the terrorists, or is it that terrorists are too stupid to realize they are outgunned. And if they are outgunned why didn't we defeat them in Iraq years ago ? Answer: politics, we could have just nuked that country and been done with it, or bommed it into the stoneage. Re: Army!! Community Center Geeks' Lounge by twomers >> Many of the weapons we are buying don't have an enemy yet. I like that, Lardmeister. >> We don't have a manditory military service any more How/why did that come about, actually? I thought it was still there. Politics and HR activists believing everyone has a choice?