Re: Nobel-winner Watson: Do antioxidants promote cancer? Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Agilemind Cancer is extremely complicated because it is caused by mutations over …. Cancers also actively evolve and contain many different kinds of cancer cells which react differently to compounds/drugs. The bottom line… is don't believe anything 'prevents cancer' or 'cures cancer' until it has been shown in a double blinded… Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Xantipius …spontaneously with little effort shortly before their lung cancer is diagnosed, leading some researchers to speculate that…gt; For comparison, researchers also interviewed patients with prostate cancer and those who had suffered a heart attack. 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A proper rebuttal consists or more than the above statement. You could claim, for example, that the sample size is too small to be statistically significant, but to just cry bullshit is about as valid as shouting "is not". The story is also copied word for word from the referenced site… Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon I claimed it is bullshit because the sample size is just too small to be of any significance, which is why I quoted that line. Don't care if it was copied word-for-word, it's still bullshit. IMO it's not in violation of DaniWeb rules since he provided a link to the original text. This would fall under the "[fair use](http://en.wikipedia.org… Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Xantipius **Ancient Dragon**, +1 to your last post. But seems you failed to notice: the main and only keyword in the article is **spontaneously**. Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting Most (all?) such "studies" are conducted for only a single purpose: to generate an excuse for someone, somewhere, to either legislate or sell something. The general public doesn't understand sample size, the press only prints the executive summary which doesn't mention it, and politicians cherry pick those lines that advance their talking… Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Agilemind > Most (all?) such "studies" are conducted for only a single purpose: to generate an excuse for someone, somewhere, to either legislate or sell something. Not really, certainly the studies conducted by 'think tanks' or by a company/industry body are for that purpose but most research by publicly funded academics at research institutes… Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Xantipius The most dangerous component of tobacco smoke is carbonic dust (the same case with street exhausts by cars). I "earned" my lung TB (tuberculesis) because I worked with diamonds, not because I'm a heavy smoker. For almost a decade I was forced to breath diamond dust (abt 30-40%% of raw diamond goes into dust (into thin air), after cutting… Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon don't you guys wear masks when working with those diamonds? Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Agilemind Interesting about the diamonds, I would hope they are required to supply masks for the workers now the danger is known. Do you know why it makes you sensitive to TB vs other lung aliments? because TB is bacterial and is usually more down to weakened immune systems (eg. AIDS) than lung irritation. Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Ancient Dragon I have no clue why, I have not had a biology class since about 1960. But you might be interested in [this article](http://www.minesandcommunities.org/article.php?a=6851), which suggests diamond mines are covered in asbestos dust Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting note that the article doesn't even attempt to hide its hostility towards deBeers, I'd not trust it to be in any way objective about the seriousness of the situation. As to asbestos in mines, hardly surprising. Even if there's no asbestos associated with the presence of kimberlite (afaik there is no such association, I've read some about diamong … Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Xantipius Sorry, guys, my poor English does not allow me to depict the whole situation. PS: Of course, I am not a diamond cutter. There I worked as a hired full-time programmer/sysadmin. Simply my work place was adjacent (behind a glass wall) to the tool shop. My CRT monitors gathered huge layers of graphite dust on them. **@Ancient Dragon**, an interesting… Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by jwenting graphite is not asbestos, a tool shop is not a mine... If you got a lot of graphite (and I guess other) materials in your office from the tool shop next door that means just what I noted, there is poor filtration of the air causing pollution to spread. By your own (and ADs) logic, offices are a major source of graphite dust because that's where the… Re: Spontaneous smoking cessation may be an early symptom of lung cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Agilemind Some very interesting articles posted. I took a little geology in uni and we talked about diamond mines in one class but didn't get into how they are actually extracted & processed. The asbestos-diamonds relationship based on the above articles is strictly chrysotile asbestos (least harmful kind) because unlike the other types of asbestos … Re: Cell phones and cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by Agilemind To be fair they did report who funded the study: the US Toxicology Program which if you Google it is a national program part of the Department of Health and Human Services and involves the NIH, FDA and CDC. But the biggest problems with this particular study which neither you nor the media picked up on is that: 1) This is just partial findings … Re: Cell phones and cancer Community Center Geeks' Lounge by deceptikon > I had much more respect for his "comedy" news than I have for "real" news". When The Onion reports things and you can't tell the difference between them and "real" news, there's clearly a problem. Journalism these days is more about pushing agendas than informing people.