Not so fast! McCain and Palin are plain old liars, but Obama commits the ultimate sin, he lectures. Past history has shown that the standard American voter will pick a liar over a lecturer any old time. In this case the guy with the funny name will come out the fool.
Lardmeister 461 Posting Virtuoso
Dave Sinkula 2,398 long time no c Team Colleague
Even the right-leaning Washington Post has given up on McCain/Palin.
That's bending things a bit IMO.
Richard Cohen (Washington Post columnist)
Cohen's political views are generally seen as liberal on most issues.
I wouldn't find it odd that a liberal-leaning person doesn't care for the Republican ticket.
GrimJack 1,414 Posting Maven Featured Poster
If you keep disowning everyone who begins to question the McCain/Palin ticket, you are not going to have many conservatives left on your side. David Brooks of the New York Times, heck even Karl Rove thinks McCain is lying through his teeth in his ads. Now McCain flacks are claiming that McCain invented the BlackBerry. Then his other flack's are having a real problem explaining McCain - Pfotenhauer and Bounds.
Yes, I did notice that these videos are on Huffington post. And yes I think the Pfotenhauer and the Democratic flack kept really trying to keep on talking point.
<<poke>>
Dave Sinkula 2,398 long time no c Team Colleague
If you keep disowning everyone who begins to question the McCain/Palin ticket, you are not going to have many conservatives left on your side.
I'm not disowning anybody. As I've mentioned, I'm not a fan of McCain. I'm still participating in the Palin vetting. But as a general helpful guideline Jack, I don't know if you are confusing conservative and Republican, but the two are not synonymous. (If that's a misread of you, oops.)
Sorry I didn't get to the rest of your <<poke>> yet. But a bit of it came across as spin. Maybe I'll give it a second look later.
GrimJack 1,414 Posting Maven Featured Poster
I am beginning to see the attraction that Republicans have for her.
Catalana 31 Posting Whiz in Training
At least McCain knows how to interrogate prisoners...
he was interrogated
good point
scru commented: stupid point. +0
vegaseat 1,735 DaniWeb's Hypocrite Team Colleague
Not so fast! McCain and Palin are plain old liars, but Obama commits the ultimate sin, he lectures. Past history has shown that the standard American voter will pick a liar over a lecturer any old time. In this case the guy with the funny name will come out the fool.
Particularly if the liar is a good shooter and promisses to lower taxes and petrol prices.
I agree people just hate to be lectured.
Ezzaral 2,714 Posting Sage Team Colleague Featured Poster
At least McCain knows how to interrogate prisoners...
he was interrogated
Yes, that part is obvious. What is unclear is what you feel that implies:
That he knows the brutally effective ways to get people to talk?
That he knows "morally right" way to do it? (Which would be what exactly, in your own estimation?)
That Obama does not know how? (Is he supposed to?)
That someone who is familiar with interrogation is the most appropriate candidate for the Presidency?
Someone above agreed that you had a good point. I fail to see how it's a relevant point at all, given the complete ambiguity of your uncompleted assertion.
scru commented: Agreed. +3
GrimJack 1,414 Posting Maven Featured Poster
The Canadian system is becoming more and more attractive. They have single payer health care; now they have declared a national election and it will be over before we have finished sliming our candidates.
Their national debates are being broadcast on the same day that the Veeps do their debates - they are worried no one will watch.
jwenting 1,905 duckman Team Colleague
interesting how the leftists as usual do all the mudslinging and flaming, then go and blame the ones they're defaming for it...
They must be so full of hatred for everything right thinking people stand for.
Things like equality, opportunity, getting compensated for your work, etc. etc. etc.
scru commented: okaaaay +0
Dave Sinkula 2,398 long time no c Team Colleague
Even the right-leaning Washington Post has given up on McCain/Palin.
Democratic Strategist and Senior Fellow of Governance at the left-of-center Brookings Institution, says
TO: SEN. BARACK OBAMA
FROM: WILLIAM GALSTON
SUBJ: ADJUST OR LOSE
DATE: SEPTEMBER 16, 2008I'll get right to the point: You are in danger of squandering an election most of us thought was unlosable. The reason is simple: on the electorate’s most important concern – the economy -- you have no clear message, and John McCain has filled the void with his own.
This is more than my opinion. The Democracy Corps survey released yesterday proves the case beyond a reasonable doubt. Backed by a wealth of persuasive detail, here is the nub of their conclusion:
In the absence of a coherent change message from Obama, many voters are accepting McCain’s definition, particularly since they want to change Washington and clean up government. As a result, Obama has lost his double-digit advantage over McCain on the right kind of change.
:icon_razz:
GrimJack 1,414 Posting Maven Featured Poster
interesting how the leftists as usual do all the mudslinging and flaming, then go and blame the ones they're defaming for it...
They must be so full of hatred for everything right thinking people stand for.
Things like equality, opportunity, getting compensated for your work, etc. etc. etc.
Wow - that is an astonishing bit of sophistry.
I wish there was more I could say but the purity of your statement and the amount of mental distortion required to come up with that short piece of prose is staggering.
JW, you are either the god of all trolls or you have turned yourself into a klein bottle.
sneekula 969 Nearly a Posting Maven
Wow - that is an astonishing bit of sophistry.
I wish there was more I could say but the purity of your statement and the amount of mental distortion required to come up with that short piece of prose is staggering.
JW, you are either the god of all trolls or you have turned yourself into a klein bottle.
Let's face it JW comes from another world. Maybe he eats too many fermented tulip bulbs.
Well, the hobble about Palin has straightened a bit, and she looks more like ho-hum whatever.
sneekula 969 Nearly a Posting Maven
Just some observations from todays US news.
Palin in Wisconsin:
"In a Palin McCain Administration ....."
(come McCain my act dead, but he isn't)
McCain:
"If I were President, I would fire the chairman of the SEC ....."
Imaginary Lieberman whispering in the old man's ear:
"Dear, the President does not have the authority to fire him."
sneekula 969 Nearly a Posting Maven
McCain yesterday:
"The chairman of the FEC needs to resign ....."
Imaginary Lieberman whispering in the old man's ear:
"Dear, the FEC is the Federal Election Commission. You should have said SEC!"
Colin Mac 53 Posting Whiz
No one died when Clinton lied. But they did when Yugoslavia got bombed.
http://www.antiwar.com/pilger/?articleid=11421
Aia 1,977 Nearly a Posting Maven
No one died when Clinton lied. But they did when Yugoslavia got bombed.
http://www.antiwar.com/pilger/?articleid=11421
Colin Mac,
Do you think the proud displayer of that slogan cares about the truth?
Decent folks don't fall for such cheesy rhymes, if you are concern about it. The whole world knows what Clinton was doing while Al Qaeda was planning. Only folks like sneekula think they can rewrite history with a bumper sticker.
ZZucker 342 Practically a Master Poster
Darn it, I didn't know we were having fun with our favorite cartoon characters over here.
Let me participate and contribute this piece destine to become a classic.
You must be in the wrong thread, I didn't see any cartoon characters! Well, in the VA Hospital we have learned to help folks, so I will post one for you:
ZZucker 342 Practically a Master Poster
No one died when Clinton lied. But they did when Yugoslavia got bombed.
http://www.antiwar.com/pilger/?articleid=11421
I don't think Clinton lied when the US Air Force was bombing Yugoslavia. The Yugoslav army was conducting mass murder on the ground!
Colin Mac 53 Posting Whiz
I don't think Clinton lied when the US Air Force was bombing Yugoslavia. The Yugoslav army was conducting mass murder on the ground!
What's the alternative? - Christian Serbs fleeing their land, ethnic Albanians burning churches to the ground and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism backed by Saudi money in Kosovo.
ZZucker 342 Practically a Master Poster
Wow Sarah Palin without her makeup on!
"I seek constantly to improve my manners and graces, for they are the sugar to which all are attracted."
ZZucker 342 Practically a Master Poster
What's the alternative? - Christian Serbs fleeing their land, ethnic Albanians burning churches to the ground and the rise of Islamic fundamentalism backed by Saudi money in Kosovo.
Christians against the Muslims, that explains your thinking well.
Dave Sinkula 2,398 long time no c Team Colleague
bumsfeld 413 Nearly a Posting Virtuoso
Dave Sinkula commented: bumsfeld: post-partisan polemicist! +17
bumsfeld 413 Nearly a Posting Virtuoso
Wow Sarah Palin without her makeup on!
._._._
... and she still looks soooo prrrrrrrrretty!
As one outsider I am confused, does Palin run against Obama? What happened to McCain?
Dave Sinkula 2,398 long time no c Team Colleague
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