christnelson 0 Newbie Poster

I'm new to Dreamweaver and working with Spry Menus. I started with the adobe tutorials this weekend and am working my way through things now.

I'm currently 'stuck' on two steps. I've put a mock of the header here for illustration:
http://tamos.net/~cnelson/Dreamweaver/

VERTICAL BORDERS FOR THE BUTTONS:

The first has to do with the appearance of the spry menu buttons. I'd like to have a vertical line in between each button on my menu bar. I know how to add a 1px border on all sides, but doing this essentially doubles the border of the buttons on the middle because they are getting a 1px border on each side. This isn't the end of the world, but then I can't get the edges of the outside of the menu bar to duplicate this (since they are not doubled).

Ideally this effect would NOT exist in the submenu drop down.

I also thought about just doing something obvious like adding a " | " in text, but I can't seem to get the spacing the work when I enter the text into the field.

My second question is a style question:

I'd like the width of my navigation menu to essentially be identical to the width of my webpage container div. I can do this manually by making the buttons really wide, but I'd like to know if there is a way to essentially make a mock button with no text and no rollover color (so it appeared just as a plane static object). I've been totally unsuccessful in doing this so far. I added an extra button with just a "." in it to simulate what i'm trying to accomplish, but I have no idea how I can format just that button to (A) not show text without disappearing completely, and (B) not change color when it rollsover.

Any thoughts on how best to accomplish this? Basically, I can't for the life of me figure out how to set individual parameters for just one button.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm copying my spry menu .css too:

@charset "UTF-8";

/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */

/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */

/*******************************************************************************

 LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order

 *******************************************************************************/

/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
{
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	list-style-type: none;
	font-size: 100%;
	cursor: default;
	width: auto;
	text-transform: none;
	border-right-width: thin;
}
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: [url]http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html[/url] */
ul.MenuBarActive
{
	z-index: 5000;
}
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
{
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0;
	list-style-type: none;
	font-size: 100%;
	position: relative;
	text-align: left;
	cursor: pointer;
	width: 8.6em;
	float: left;
	border-top-width: 0px;
	border-right-width: 0px;
	border-bottom-width: 0px;
	border-left-width: 0px;
	border-top-style: solid;
	border-right-style: solid;
	border-bottom-style: solid;
	border-left-style: solid;
	border-top-color: #000;
	border-right-color: #000;
	border-bottom-color: #000;
	border-left-color: #000;
	background-color: #E8E8E8;
	color: #000;
	font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
}
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
{
	margin: 0;
	padding: 0px;
	list-style-type: none;
	font-size: 100%;
	z-index: 1020;
	cursor: default;
	width: 8.8em;
	position: absolute;
	left: -1000em;
}
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
{
	left: auto;
}
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
{
	width: 8.8em;
	list-style-type: none;
	visibility: visible;
	filter: Shadow(Color=000, Direction=5px);
}
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
{
	position: absolute;
	margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
}
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
{
	left: auto;
	top: 0;
}

/*******************************************************************************

 DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts

 *******************************************************************************/

/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
{
	border: 0px solid #000;
}
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
{
	display: block;
	cursor: pointer;
	background-color: #EEE;
	color: #000;
	text-decoration: none;
	padding: .5em .75em;
	border: 0px solid #000;
}
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
{
	background-color: #F3F3F3;
	color: #000;
	font-family: Georgia, "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
}
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
{
	background-color: #33C;
	color: #FFF;
}

/*******************************************************************************

 SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item

 *******************************************************************************/

/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
{
	background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
	background-repeat: no-repeat;
	background-position: 95% 50%;
	color: #000;
}
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
{
	background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
	background-repeat: no-repeat;
	background-position: 95% 50%;
}
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
{
	background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
	background-repeat: no-repeat;
	background-position: 95% 50%;
}
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
{
	background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
	background-repeat: no-repeat;
	background-position: 95% 50%;
}

/*******************************************************************************

 BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert

 *******************************************************************************/

/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
{
	position: absolute;
	z-index: 1010;
	filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
}
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
{
	ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
	{
		display: inline;
		float: left;
		background: #FFF;
	}
}