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Hey there,

So I have been experiencing some issues with mouse lag in games. Simply put the mouse, as it moves from left to right, appears to lag my game and at some point I can even freeze the frame of my game with the mouse movement. However, when I don't move the mouse at all I get my standard high frame rate

My mouse is a wired Microsoft Sidewinder and I have tried using the mouse with and without its driver still with the problem. Originally the problem was just with Steam powered games such as Team Fortress 2 or Garry's Mod however now the problem has extended to other games not even connected to Steam in any way.

I have Service Pack 3 installed and am running on XP Home Edition (32bit) and my GPU is a NVidia 280. [DxDiag Attaced]

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/9/2009, 19:40:22
       Machine name: DJDESKTOP2
   Operating System: Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: INTEL_
       System Model: DG965WH_
               BIOS: Default System BIOS
          Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 3326MB RAM
          Page File: 1019MB used, 4190MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: The file ctaud2k.sys is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL).  You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 280
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce GTX 280
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E1&SUBSYS_055710DE&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 1024.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (59Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9038 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 7/14/2009 11:54:00, 5842816 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 7/14/2009 11:54:00, 7741664 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-46A1-11CF-2050-5C2500C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x05E1
        SubSys ID: 0x055710DE
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D 
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive 
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch 
         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: SB X-Fi Audio [1100]
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0005&SUBSYS_00311102&REV_00
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1284 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: No
          Date and Size: 7/15/2008 19:07:18, 527384 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 1, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 128, 127
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 128, 127
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: Yes
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

            Description: SigmaTel Audio
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7627&SUBSYS_80862504&REV_1002
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: sthda.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.5143.0000 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 7/26/2006 23:24:28, 1171464 bytes
            Other Files: 
        Driver Provider: SigmaTel
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xB5B
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 48000, 48000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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            Description: SB X-Fi Audio [1100]
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1284 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/15/2008 19:07:18, 527384 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

            Description: SigmaTel Audio
  Default Sound Capture: No
  Default Voice Capture: No
            Driver Name: sthda.sys
         Driver Version: 5.10.5143.0000 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 7/26/2006 23:24:28, 1171464 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xCC0

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DirectMusic
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        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: Enabled
           Ports: SB X-Fi DMusic Synth [1100], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  SigmaTel Audio, Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
                  SB X-Fi Audio [1100], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB X-Fi Synth B [1100] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB X-Fi Synth A [1100] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: SideWinder         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0724
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: G15 Gaming Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC226
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: G15 Gaming Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC226
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: G15 GamePanel LCD
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC227
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Saitek X45 Flight Control Stick 
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x2541
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2834
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/13/2008 11:45:37, 59520 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/4/2004 05:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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PS/2 Devices
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+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC226
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/13/2008 11:39:48, 14592 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 11:39:47, 24576 bytes
| 
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC227
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 4/13/2008 11:39:48, 14592 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/13/2008 11:39:47, 24576 bytes
| 
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Fil
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Member Avatar for Suspishio

Did you google "mouse causing 100% cpu usage xp"

There's stacks of stuff there for you to get sorted.

Member Avatar for dewhite414

Ok I didn't find anything that pertains to my problem from the search but I have found out that when I move my mouse my CPU Usage hits about 45-55%. The process the usage is coming from is always what I have as active currently(i.e. using Internet Explorer the CPU usage is under the .exe process)

Not sure what this means exactly though...

Member Avatar for Suspishio

Everyone's PC does this when there is sustained mouse movemenbt. Mine included. There's a lot of calculation going on when the mouse moves. The faster you move it the higher the CPU usage goes, to around 50%.

With Core 2 Due CPUs I don't worry about that because it's a multi-threasded activity.

Member Avatar for dewhite414

Ok, started up on Safe Mode and the problem did not occur(a maximum of 10% CPU usage with mouse movement) so I am assuming that there is a process running that is causing this problem. The only problem is that my Anti-Virus Software has picked nothing up.

Any suggestions?

Member Avatar for Suspishio

OK - so the CPU usage of the mouse itself is not the issue. As per your original post, it's mouse lag. What would I do? Sure, I'd want to know what's chewing up resources. A number of things come to mind, plus a question for you.

Is the Nvidia 280 a recent addition to your system?

When we've had mouse lag on Steam based games (my son that is), we had to reduce the screen resolution to get the right compromise with frame rate and mouse lag. So an experiment here might be necessary; if you've already done that, a report of what you noticed on the mouse performance would be useful.

I'd want to have Task Manager up in the corner of the screen or in another screen (your 280 supports a second monitor/tv). I'd want to note what was hogging or sharing the cpu both during mouse movement and when mouse is at rest.

I would make sure that everything that I didn't need to have loaded in RAM was unloaded. Your GTX 280 top slices 1GB off your 4GB of RAM; 2GB is reserved by XP for its Kernel to use (but it lowers the barrier if it doesn't need all of the 2GB), leaving about 1GB for your application (like Steam based game).

You can tip your DXDiag info into a spreadsheet and add up all the driver RAM in use or you can tot up the RAM used as logged in the Task Manager Processes Window along with all the other details about paged usage that Task manager displays WHEN YOUR GAME IS RUNNING & the mouse is playing up.

Ahead of diagnosis, I would gues that the solution would be to upgrade your RAM to 8GB, put VISTA 64 on and thereby remove what I suspect to be pagefile overheads slowing down your games.

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