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I miss you. :(

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Short historical context and why the thread feels split: Oracle completed its acquisition of Sun Microsystems on January 27, 2010, and with that came stewardship of Java and Sun’s certification program. That change explains the nostalgia in ’ post and the snark from — the brand, process and incentives around certifications were about to shift. (sec.gov)

Practical answer to ’s question about whether to hurry or wait: Oracle rebranded and reorganized the Sun certification tracks into the current multi-level Java paths (associate/professional/expert/master) and later provided explicit upgrade/migration routes for older Sun/OCJP holders. Exam delivery and administration were also consolidated under a new vendor (Pearson VUE). Because Oracle published clear migration/upgrade paths and continued to recognize existing credentials, taking a currently available Sun/Oracle exam to meet an immediate goal made sense rather than waiting for an undefined “integration” that would take time to settle. (oracle.com)

On value and format (echoing and ): the traditional SCJP/OCJP-style exams emphasize detailed language and API knowledge through objective questions (multiple-choice, scenario-based items) rather than open-ended software design or long-form coding assignments. That makes the cert useful as a verifiable baseline of Java knowledge, but not a substitute for demonstrable project work. Pair certification with a portfolio (small apps, GitHub links, real bugs fixed) to show practical ability. (oracle.com)

Short, practical plan (for candidates like who can wait): if the certificate is needed right away for job apps or graduation, sit the current exam and document practical work alongside it. If timing and currency matter more, aim for the latest Oracle Java SE path (Silver/Gold or the current OCA/OCP-equivalent exams) and use Oracle’s published upgrade routes to keep the credential current. (oracle.com)

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Member Avatar for verruckt24

I wish you didn't.

Member Avatar for jwenting

The Sun never sets on the empire of Oracle :)

Just wondering whether to hasten my Sun certification along or wait with the exam until after it's fully integrated into Oracle's certification program.

Member Avatar for verruckt24

I guess it won't be much of a difference except the certificate would be red in colour instead of blue going by the recent changes that have occurred on sun's site. ;)

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Member Avatar for jwenting

not so sure. Oracle certification is a lot more valuable (in general) than is Sun certification.
It's of course also a lot tougher (which makes it more valuable), so it really removes the incompetents who just grind their certification cheatsheets.

Member Avatar for verruckt24

If it gets tougher than nothing like it because I've seen a lot of SCJPs who couldn't answer the very basic of the questions. Making it tough enough or even very tough causes very few, only the very deserving ones, pass the exam. This again adds to the value.

So overall that would be a very welcome change.

Member Avatar for jwenting

it would be, as you're quite right. SCJP tests your ability to answer multiple guess questions, not your ability to create software in Java.

Member Avatar for BestJewSinceJC

I'm waiting until I graduate either way, but I'll eventually be getting that certification. I'm assuming by the end of the summer it will be transferred to oracle?

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Will take time to merge all the products and departments.
I think it will be more a process of new products being released under Oracle than old ones being changed.

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