Posts by christina>you

I don't think there's anything wrong with the Department of Education.

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mayo is disgusting on anything other than hot dogs, hamburgers and sandwiches.

Hot dogs?

Hahah.

Yeah some of my friends eat french fries with mayo instead of ketchup.

Mayonaise is the best condiment/sauce though. Beautiful stuff.

Mayo is pretty awesome. Too bad it's completely unhealthy. >:[

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Yeah... I like butter and gravy.
I've had some friends that put ketchup on everything... literally! Lol

I've never heard of putting ketchup on eggs. I have heard of putting it on mashed potatoes though. Yuck!

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is good at the posting games. :)

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is the coolest atheist/nihilist(?) guy I know.

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Is also annoying at times, but I like him anyway. :)

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edit: my bad for reviving a year old thread.

Those are interesting, Dave. And I'm not going to say I believe in everything it says, but a lot of it makes sense.

I found an article about a woman who says she had inoperable cancer due to cigarettes.

This is her story.

How old do you have to be to drive a moped?

Some people want the age to be raised to 21.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-10/12/content_706415.htm

Wow, now this is ridiculous. But are the laws in China the same as here in the US?

You aren't allowed to buy tobacco until age 18, right?

But seriously, at age 9?
How in the world did you get cigarettes as a child?

oh i see then how come my parents never found out cause i used to smoke since i was 9 and never caught at all

Well then you're just special. Or better yet, sneaky.

i don't inhale my own smoke cause i blow away from me i don't want to smell like cigarettes

Well sorry to burst your bubble, but everyone who smokes smell like cigarettes. Unless they take a shower and put on some clean clothes after they light up.

so wut u r tellin me is when i used to smoke years ago i was both smoker and secondhand smoker??!!! and i quited that still makes me a second hand smoker and that means that people who smoke gets more damaged than people who are secondhand smokers cause they know how it feels to be one of both teams hahaha

Ok seriously, punctuation?

Of course every smoker is also a secondhand smoker.

Secondhand smoke comes from sidestream smoke (which is smoke that comes from the end of a lighted cigarette, pipe, or cigar) and mainstream smoke (smoke that is exhaled by the smoker). And of course, every smoker inhales their own smoke involuntarily; which is defined as secondhand smoking.

Due to the fact that it's smoke, laden with CO, CO2, etc...sure. But given the earlier argument about the substances that remain inside the discarded butt, how much of the toxins are even being turned into smoke in the first place? And I refer you again to the issue of hormesis on the 'no-threshold' argument.

Were all other risk factors taken into consideration when dealing with these values? Is there no other way in which the rates could have increased?

Immediate effects? Such as, oh, CO/CO2 bonding to the Hemoglobin in the blood and locking O2 out? Or are you specifically positing that the carcinogins have an immediate effect on the bloodstream?

And on the issue of the substances within cigarettes being carcinogenic, are the researchers dealing with it considering them as mutagenic substances, or are they dealing with them as substances able to spawn aneuploidy?

Italicized for emphasis...
From what I've seen, this means that an eighty-year old man who dies of a heart attack while shoveling snow could, if his son or daughter occasionally lights one up, be classified in this category.

And again, can you prove that the lung cancer deaths were the responsibility of the secondhand smoke, with no other complicating factors?

I don't know the answer to these questions. I was just quoting things that I read from the CDC, WHO, and ACS.

So no actual deaths?

This is what the American Cancer Society says...

Secondhand smoke can be harmful in many ways. In the United States alone, each year it is responsible for:

• an estimated 35,000 deaths from heart disease in people who live with smokers but are not current smokers
• about 3,400 lung cancer deaths in nonsmoking adults

Is nicotine dangerous in the quantities of second-hand tobacco smoke?

Well I'm sure it must be, unless the American Cancer Society, Center for Disease Control, and WHO are all wrong.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services says that, "There is no risk-free level of secondhand smoke exposure. Even brief exposure can be dangerous."

And...

Secondhand smoke exposure causes heart disease and lung cancer in nonsmoking adults.

Nonsmokers who are exposed to secondhand smoke at home or work increase their heart disease risk by 25–30% and their lung cancer risk by 20–30%.

Breathing secondhand smoke has immediate harmful effects on the cardiovascular system that can increase the risk of heart attack. People who already have heart disease are at especially high risk.

Campfires and various cooking techniques contain many of the same chemicals?

Oh no it does not, sir.

Other kinds of smoke do not include: cadmium, tar, toluene, arsenic, acetone, phenol, ammonia, etc. And most importantly, it does not have nicotine.

Secondhand smoke is classified as a "known human carcinogen" (cancer-causing agent) by the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), the US National Toxicology Program, and the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), a branch of the World Health Organization.

I don't think I'd have enough patience to look through 52 pages for it.

Did you ever hear of people dying due to overexposure of second-hand tobacco smoke?

Yeah, we covered this already.

Why do you say that? If secondhand campfire smoke is just as dangerous as secondhand tobacco smoke, and if secondhand tobacco smoke should not be tolerated, why should campfire smoke?

But it's not as dangerous. At all.
Do you ever hear about people dying due to overexposure of campfire smoke?

Yes I completely missed that angle.

Outlaw campfires (to think that some cruel people do this around their children!), and wood and charcoal grills. Probably fireworks too. And cooking in restaurants or cooking meat in the home.

Are you serious? =/

Does it have to be cigarette smoke, or would, say, secondhand fireplace smoke serve as well?

That's different.

Nicotine causes a central paralysing effect upon the brain and the central nervous system and as a result of absorption, acts upon different organs such as heart, eyes and intestinal tract, leading to death.

Now if this doesn't make you want to quit smoking, I don't know what will.

ppl i have no idea wut u ppl are talkin about but if it is smokin then i have to say that i love it i smoke pipe weed dont see me as a nerd the pc is my 2nd hobby my first is babes ;) and cause of babes i smoke :@ but i am loving it hahahha so no body talks trash about smokin yall understand u bit***s

Ok so let me try to translate...

You don't know what we're talking about even though the title of the thread is called smoking. You like to smoke weed. You're not a nerd. You like girls. And because of girls you somehow smoke. You love it and you think we're all female dogs.

Is this correct?

Like I said... smoking can be beneficial if used in the right manner.

But most of the time in most people, the outcome is never good.

Ok.

I believe he offers this in his bio.

Must have missed that. Oh wait, I stopped after I read "The original Surgeon General's Report, released in 1964, showed no ill effects from pipe smoking, or moderate cigar smoking."

Me too. Them damn "medical facts" sites are beginning to annoy me.

Why do they annoy you? Because they are indeed, facts? And you don't want to face the truth?
Just because you don't agree with the doctors all around the world proclaiming their knowledge about cigarettes and nicotine doesn't mean they are wrong.

So what... you find one man that describes his life with tobacco wasn't so bad and you automatically believe he knows more than the physicians that see patients like him every day who are suffering?

I understand that in some cases, there are men and women who do not become ill or sick due to cigarettes, but that doesn't mean the dangers and risks are not there.

http://www.lcolby.com/index.html

Who is this -- Lauren A. Colby?

Is he a doctor or just some kind of philosopher?

[Edit:] His words seem to be more opinionated than factual.
I'd like to see a website that isn't bias on this subject.

[edit]Christina, you might want to go back and look at Narue's post that you gave bad rep..

Too late.
But why.

>And I like to prove her wrong.
A lot of people like to prove me wrong. Why? Because it happens so very rarely. And you're not among those who are capable of doing it.

Keep thinking that.

>hah.. yall like to fight..
It's not often that I get to play with someone as uptight as christina. You should try it, it's a blast. :)

Ditto.

No. I think Narue just likes to think she's right all the time.

And I like to prove her wrong.

Carbon monoxide replaces the oxygen in your bloodstream, your blood pressure raises and your heart rate increases.
You may have nausea, shortness of breath, dizziness, headaches and coughing. Your risk of heart attack can increase by 3 times by smoking as few as 1 cigarette a day. Are just a few cigarettes worth it?

http://www.healthecommunities.org/stqpFAQS.asp

>Have you ever heard of a CNA?
Yes, and you're right that the minimum age is 16 for becoming a CNA. However, that's not a nurse. That's an orderly. You can't claim to be a nurse just yet, kiddo, so get off your soap box and come back to reality.

An orderly? Wow, orderlies clean equipment and transport patients. CNAs are considered nurses here. They clean, bathe, feed, and clothe patients. They do all the things that LPNs and RNs don't want to do. CNAs are above orderlies. Orderlies cannot work as a CNA in a nursing home because they don't have the training. Orderlies do not = CNAs. That's why they have different titles... ?
CNAs are also known as Home Health Aides, Personal Care Assistants, Nurse's Aides, or Patient Care Technicians.

>Sure.
Sorry, I missed where that quote says or suggests "smoking regularly". This is a case of you reading between the lines and being wrong.

I guess.

>Uh yes a 17 year old nurse. And why in the world would I lie about that?
Because the minimum age for a licensed nurse is 18 and the shortest licensing program is LPN, which takes one year. You do the math.

Hmm. I'm sorry, but I don't think this involves math.
Have you ever heard of a CNA? Of course not. Because if you did, you wouldn't have made such an ignorant statement.

The CNA program is offered to Juniors and Seniors in high school or to adults. It is a 2 year, 4 semester program which involves medical terminology, health concepts, and clinical work. I am right below an LPN.

>You think that smoking regularly is good for the human body
Please quote where I said that. Let's see which of us can't read. :)

Sure.

"Smoking is good for you, just like chocolate and wine. And just like chocolate and wine, smoking in excess is bad for you."

umm ....

Josh said "just about everything." Besides, he was trying to make a point.