e.g. some dimension where our 3 dimensional universe can fit in a tiny box,
or what else can be a dimension, can mass be a dimension as well ?
Your thougts please.
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Jump to Postinteresting article... 11 dimensions?
Jump to PostEvidence actually suggests the universe is not infinite. It is just expanding at an extremely fast rate, so fast that you would have to travel at the speed of light to go around it. And as we know travel at the speed of is impossible for anything with mass.
Jump to Postthis is a cool movie on youtube you might want to check out that animates from the 1st to the 10th dimension
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We measure the 3 dimensions of space from within the space thus created by them, using them to measure them. We measure time, how? By noticing changes within space? Yes, but also, by noticing thought (or cognition).
Time, in and of itself has no measurable substance. We …
Jump to PostAll of our measurements are self-referential, they depend upon the consistent behavior of one another for them to be meaninful. Thus, they are all, not only relative, but to a degree, inconsistent. We have an approximate measurement of anything you can think of. (Even the atomic resonance upon which we …
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jwenting 1,905 duckman Team Colleague
uncertainty.
EnderX 352 Posting Shark
How are you defining dimension here? Only the physical dimensions?
lasher511 185 Veteran Poster
Mass is actually a part of the 3rd dimension.
I think that the forth dimension is now pretty widely accepted as time. (depending on what scientists you talk to)
As for a 5th dimension i don't think that we have really developed enough as a race to understand or even comprehend what the 5th dimension might be.
EnderX 352 Posting Shark
Again, are we only working with the concept of physical dimensions? Because by some definitions I've seen, a non-physical structure could be defined in terms of vast numbers of dimensions.
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
Perhaps string theory?
vegaseat 1,735 DaniWeb's Hypocrite Team Colleague
It depends what is relevant to your space, in an economic space PRICE would be a dimension.
madoverclocker 13 Junior Poster
Serunson 413 Posting Maven
From what i have heard, they have found up to 20 different dimensions! So yeah physics could show infinite dimensions.
sneekula 969 Nearly a Posting Maven
From what i have heard, they have found up to 20 different dimensions! So yeah physics could show infinite dimensions.
In an infinite universe, why not? One of my dimensions is money, or the lack thereof.
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
Evidence actually suggests the universe is not infinite. It is just expanding at an extremely fast rate, so fast that you would have to travel at the speed of light to go around it. And as we know travel at the speed of is impossible for anything with mass.
vegaseat 1,735 DaniWeb's Hypocrite Team Colleague
While the Universe is not infinite, there could be an infinite number of Universes.
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
Here is an interesting thought, if our universe is expanding, then what is it expanding in? A test tube in some other universe, or perhaps we are just a single atom on a blade of grass.
lasher511 185 Veteran Poster
From what i have heard, they have found up to 20 different dimensions! So yeah physics could show infinite dimensions.
Actually the most popular theory at the moment is that we have a finite universe and it is merely expanding constantly.
They actually think that things like gravity might actually be escaping from a different dimension as well. None the dimensions that scientists theorise about these days really have much to do with the first 3 dimensions.
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
Actually the most popular theory at the moment is that we have a finite universe and it is merely expanding constantly.
Almost exactly what i said a few posts earlier.
lasher511 185 Veteran Poster
Almost exactly what i said a few posts earlier.
Yeah sorry i realised that after i posted it that there was another page of posts.
uniquestar 26 Posting Whiz in Training
No-one's mentioned the old Dell Dimension! :P
(shoot me now)
sk8ndestroy14 294 Posting Virtuoso
Well, a point is dimensionless, a line has one dimension (length), a plane has two (length and width, thus creating area where length and width are both a part of), a volume, which has length, width, and depth, creating the attribute of volume which includes length, width, depth, and area as well. Since we are three dimensional creatures we cannot really traverse a fourth dimension although we are a part of it (just as area is a part of the third dimension, like a picture on the side of a block). The fourth dimension is time. Something we are obviously a part of, but cannot control because to us, it is linear.
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
You can control time with gravity.
(I think I mentioned this somewhere else, it might have been the Dark Matter thread).
Dani 4,653 The Queen of DaniWeb Administrator Featured Poster Premium Member
No-one's mentioned the old Dell Dimension! :P
(shoot me now)
That's what I was thinking yesterday but I was afraid I would get bashed if I posted it.
__vmware__ 21 Newbie Poster
this is a cool movie on youtube you might want to check out that animates from the 1st to the 10th dimension
briansmall 70 Junior Poster
I nominate cognition as the fifth dimension.
In previous post, it was demonstrated that the 3 dimensions, line, plane, volume are attributes of 1 thing, space. Time was presented as, almost, a separate dimension. I say it is not, that it is but a 4th attribute of the one totality.
Can space "exist" without time? Can time "exist" without space? (Can that which is contained exist without its container?)
Can either "exist" without thought? The same questions apply. Can thought exist separate of time/space? Can Time/Space exist without thought (which perceives them?)
One has to wonder if there is indeed a separation between time and space and thought any more than there can be a separation between time and space, which there cannot.
Or so it seems to me.
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
One has to wonder if there is indeed a separation between time and space and thought any more than there can be a separation between time and space, which there cannot.
Or so it seems to me.
You are right, there isn't it, it is called space-time.
briansmall 70 Junior Poster
You are right, there isn't it, it is called space-time.
Okay, now, include thought / and cognition into it. Without it, you have an incomplete picture.
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
No you do have a complete picture, space-time is the fabric that space is made of.
docdon 0 Newbie Poster
I guess that 'spirit' would be an alternate dimension. Ghosts, angels, etc. They live in the same "time" that we live, but invisibly. They influence us so why not call that another dimension? What do ya' think?
docdon 0 Newbie Poster
in addendum: "they live in the same time that we live, but invisibly (In a different space).
jasimp 427 Senior Poster Featured Poster
Ghosts, angels, etc. They live in the same "time" that we live, but invisibly. They influence us so why not call that another dimension? What do ya' think?
I think they don't exist.
docdon 0 Newbie Poster
OK! that's cool, but do you not believe in them because you can't see them or what? I once had a person tell me he/she didn't believe in the ocean because they hadn't seen it. My response (when I lived in Houston) was just to walk south. I'm interested in your response.
briansmall 70 Junior Poster
Ghosts and angels are not a certainty for all of us. Therefore I must discount them as the topic under discussion. But conciousness (cognition) is something we all have we can agree on that, and it is a distinctly separate attribute. (Ghosts and angels would have it as well.) Thus, part of them would be defined by this ... what I am calling the fifth dimension, cognition (consciousness) (of which thinking is an aspect).
I think, therefore I am has more meaning than is generally assigned to the statement.
Time-space-thought .. That's the universe I see. There may be more, perhaps "layers" or coincident dimensions. After all, Time space and thought all "fit" in to each other.
We can sense them, that's what gives us knowledge of their existence, what gives them dimension. For us, dimension is just that... that which we can sense. In fact, we cannot sense something unless it has dimension.
I find it astounding that thought / cognition has been left out of the equation for all this time.
Will or intention might comprise a sixth dimension, but I will have to think about that for a while before I'm willing to state it outright.
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